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We’ve seen things & lived to tell the tales.
Two experienced women. Too many stories.Conversations about work, life, leadership, career detours, bad bosses and the moments you couldn't make up if you tried.Apple Podcasts • Spotify • Watch on YouTube
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From Good Good to Bad Bad in Minutes
One ad. Zero warning signs caught. Millions of dollars in damage.When golf content company Good Good and club maker Callaway released an ad showing a male golfer physically shoving a woman aside while saying "don’t touch my club," the backlash was immediate and what followed was even worse than the ad itself. Sponsorships pulled. A TV show cancelled. Executives trading public accusations. A CEO firing off a tweet in the middle of the night. And at the center of it all, a crisis that was completely, entirely preventable.In this episode, Susan and Andréa pull the concept apart from every angle: how content this tone-deaf survives casting, filming, internal review, and two companies’ worth of sign-offs without a single person stopping it. What it means when "approval is ownership," and why neither brand could dodge responsibility once their logo was on it. And why the real failure wasn’t the ad itself, but what came after: vague statements, no accountability, and a very public fight that made a bad situation catastrophic.If you’re an executive, a founder, or anyone with your name on a brand’s output, this is the episode that shows you exactly where the guardrails should have been and exactly what it costs when they’re missing.Susan and Andréa don’t just break down what went wrong. They rebuild it: what a real crisis response looks like, and how smarter creative could have told the same story without hurting anyone or anything but the competition.While the ad was a creative failure, what happened next was a leadership test. And this episode shows you how to pass it.Watch on YouTube • Apple Podcasts • Spotify
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25 Years Later — Communication, Leadership, and 9/11
Twenty-five years ago, the world changed in the span of a single morning.On this solemn episode of The GGs, Susan and Andréa pause their usual business conversation to honor the men, women, and children who lost their lives on September 11, 2001 — the office workers, the passengers, the first responders who ran toward danger, and the reinforcements who came from neighboring states to help. They hold space for the families and communities still carrying that loss, and for the survivors who continue to live with the physical toll of that day.Susan and Andréa share where they were when the news broke — the confusion, the fear, the not-knowing — and walk through what it felt like to sit inside a crisis with no playbook, no precedent, and no way to reach the people you loved. From that memory, the conversation turns to something they know intimately: leadership communication under pressure.In a moment of unimaginable uncertainty, President Bush and Mayor Giuliani offered something rare — composure without pretense, honesty without overpromising, and a visible presence even before the full picture was known. Neither man had all the answers. Both showed up anyway, again and again, with what they did know, acknowledging what they didn’t, and refusing to let fear or rhetoric divide the people who needed to feel unified. It’s a masterclass in what leadership communication can be: not perfect information, but consistent presence, humility, and truth — delivered with dignity.This episode is both a tribute and a lesson. A reminder of what was lost, and of what it looks like when leaders rise to meet a nation’s fear with steadiness instead of spin.Music licensed through Soundstripe.Watch on YouTube • Apple Podcasts • Spotify
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The Evolution of (Bad) Words
What happens when the most offensive word of your generation becomes a compliment for the next one?In this episode, longtime communications leaders, Susan and Andréa, dig into a real conversation that happened at their own kitchen table - one that turned into an unexpectedly sharp lesson on generational language, audience segmentation, and the golden rule every communicator lives by: you don't control how a message lands, your audience does.From a college-age daughter's casual use of a word neither host could imagine saying out loud, to AI-assisted etymology, to a hypothetical performance review gone hilariously wrong, Susan and Andréa unpack how slang migrates from TikTok and Instagram into everyday speech, and why the executives and leaders they counsel need to understand that shift, whether they like it or not.It's a candid, funny, occasionally jaw-dropping conversation about words, generations, and the very real stakes of knowing your audience. Because in communications, language isn't static and neither is the workforce you're leading.Watch on YouTube • Apple Podcasts • Spotify
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Bad Bosses — Part 1
A boss who throws things. A "revisionist" boss who denies their own words. A press release crisis that nearly cost a career. Every executive has a story like this. Most just never say it out loud.In this episode, Susan and Andréa—two veteran communications and executive advisors—open the vault on the bosses who shaped them. From micromanagers and untrained supervisors to corporate horror stories and the double standards that quietly stalled careers, this conversation goes places most professional podcasts won't.But this isn't a gripe session. It's a masterclass hiding in plain sight because the moments that were the hardest to survive are exactly what taught Susan and Andréa how to build the cultures, communication strategies, and executive presence they now advise organizations on every day. Bad leadership isn't just a personnel problem. It's a profitability problem, a retention problem, and a brand problem—and most companies don't see it coming until it's already cost them.Real stories. Real lessons. Zero corporate polish.You can't make this shit up. GG style.Watch on YouTube • Apple Podcasts • Spotify
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Owning Your Narrative
The WNBA has never had more attention — and with that attention has come scrutiny, controversy, and some very public communications challenges.In the debut episode of The GGs, hosts Susan and Andréa use what's happening in the WNBA as a jumping-off point for a bigger conversation about leadership, reputation, and what happens when an organization's growth outpaces its ability to control the narrative. They dig into why strong internal communication matters when a brand suddenly gets massive attention, how divisive storylines can overwhelm a company that isn't ready to lead its own story, and how celebrity influence can be leveraged for good — or become a liability.From superstar employees and crisis communications to executive visibility and workplace culture, Susan and Andréa explore why every organization — whether it's a sports league or a Fortune 500 company — has to decide who tells its story.Insightful, candid, and occasionally irreverent, it's exactly the kind of conversation these two longtime communications leaders have been having for years. Only now, the microphones are on.Watch on YouTube • Apple Podcasts • Spotify
ABOUT THE GGsWe’ve seen things & lived to tell the tales.The GGs is hosted by Susan Cellura and Andréa Kohalmi, two experienced women with long careers in communications and plenty to say about everything that happens around the work. Together, they talk candidly about leadership, career detours, bad bosses, cultural moments, funny experiences and the WTF moments accumulated over long careers.This is not just a communications podcast. It’s about work, life and what happens when experience finally gives you permission to say the quiet part out loud.MEET THE GGsSusan Cellura
Experienced communications leader, storyteller and co-host of The GGs. Susan brings perspective, candor and a sharp eye for the absurdities of modern work.Andréa Kohalmi
Experienced communications leader, storyteller and co-host of The GGs. Andréa brings warmth, wit and the kind of hard-earned insight that only comes from having seen a few things.SPONSORSHIP & COLLABORATIONWant to reach smart, experienced listeners who care about work, life, leadership and culture? The GGs welcomes thoughtful sponsorships, guest conversations and creative collaborations.Work. Life. Laughs.© The GGs Podcast